Sun 30 Apr 2006
I was working on the next and possibly last Red Dwarf adventure for my group, and I was puzzling out some ships, when it struck me that there seemed to be some small inconsistencies regarding ship sizes and numbers of crew or passengers. I’ve just been through all three books, making myself some statistics, and here’s what I found:
There are five categories of size in the Red Dwarf RPG; Small, Medium, Large, Bloody Huge and Immense. As far as I can see, no official vessel has been put in the Immense-category.
For Small ships, the absolutely lowest number of passenger capability is 1, and the highest is 8. For Medium, the lowest is 4 and the highest is 40. For Large, the lowest is 9 and the largest 2000. Yeah, I was shocked, too. For Bloody Huge, the lowest is 150, and the highest is 5000.
The reason I began this count was because I kept seeing Large ships, with wildly different numbers, and I started wondering if any ship could be squished into Large with a bit of imagination. Certainly, these overlap.
Looking at required crew, there is little more to gain. For Small, not counting automated pods, the lowest requirement is 1, and the highest 2. Medium is exactly the same. Large has 2 as lowest and 4 as highest, and Bloody Huge has 3. As both highest and lowest.
Obviously, these numbers are not the most important factor in determining size. Red Dwarf is Bloody Huge and houses 1169, because much of it is cargo space, docks, ship bays, shops, recreation areas, and all the other things needed to form what is essentially a flying city. Enlightenment, on the other hand, houses 2000, but is classified as Large. It has no use for cargo decks, but does have a deck devoted entirely to sports and sexual recreation. Bloody Huge Leviathan houses a mere 150, but is mostly made up of cargo decks, being a transport ship. There is logic to this.
The ships I question are the likes of the Centauri, the Nova 5 and the Hermes. They don’t seem like they should be in the same size category as the Esperanto and the simulant ship from Gunmen of the Apocalypse.
The real problem though is with Blue Midget, White Midget and Starbug. Each of these need a minimum of one pilot, and can house up to four people. And they’re all classified as Medium.
Come on. Even before the season 7 warping, Starbug is magnitudes bigger than Blue Midget. Blue Midget is a car! A tiny little cab, barely room for four to sit up in the cockpit, probably a small luggage compartment, and then the engines. That’s it. That’s Medium, according to this, along with zeppelins and personnel shuttles with room for forty people and their luggage.
White Midget seems to be slightly larger than the blue type, but it’s in the same series, and the differences seem to be mainly cosmetic.
Starbug is a home for four people, beds, small kitchen, cargo bay, medibay, three decks, for crying out loud! It does not belong in the same size category as Blue Midget. Problem is, it doesn’t belong with the Nova 5 either, and definitely not with Enlightenment.
You might say that this is all totally irrelevant, and that it only matters if you’re in space combat and want to be boringly accurate about movement, and well, you’d be right. It has little to no impact on the actual gaming. Even so, it bothers me. I like things, even inconsequential things, to make sense. That’s why I made my own rules for hologram simulation. Compared to the madness of the original hologram rules, this is nothing, but I’m still considering writing myself some clearer guidelines. Maybe put in a new class between Medium and Large, or put a new Tiny class at the beginning, redefining Small and Medium.
Anyway, it can wait, I just wanted to rant about it for now. The adventure is as good as done, and I think I’m finished with everything I absolutely needed to do, leaving tomorrow and the rest of today off for things I want to do. Like pine for Dreamfall. Joy.
May 1st, 2006 at 0:26
I actually read through that, and I agree, go you, make new categories.
May 2nd, 2006 at 22:28
I know this is off-topic and stuff, but you totally logged off MSN before I could say it:
“Oh, Cole, you used to be evil, but if you become good, we can totally be together.”
Cole becomes evil. They’re together. From no fault of his own, Cole is turned to evil, does evil things, and returns, no longer evil.
“Oh, Cole, we can’t be together, you’ve been evil!”
…And EVERYONE sodding takes this crap at face value, EVEN COLE! (Who becomes crazy as a result, small wonder, who wouldn’t, and the episodes with him being nuts is the closest the show ever got to brilliance while I watched it, but puh-lease, they could have gotten him crazy without butchering common sense, logic, reason and depth of character)
Also:
Obdormio.com says:
sa eg forresten at “kvar gjekk Nora?” var pur brillianse?
Niks, det gjorde du ikkje, tusen, tusen takk skal du ha for at du gjorde det no, eg var litt skuffa over at ingen bemerka den, eg likte den så godt sjølv. :D
May 2nd, 2006 at 22:36
By the way, I suspect you’d like this:
Sarah says:
and there’s even some character development (and growth!) added to the mix.
Corvus Niveus Lugus says:
you’re kidding
Corvus Niveus Lugus says:
I refuse to believe those characters can develop
Sarah says:
no, seriously
Corvus Niveus Lugus says:
well, maybe Leo
Sarah says:
Leo’s not even around anymore
Corvus Niveus Lugus says:
how horrible
Corvus Niveus Lugus says:
then what has happened? Has the policeman friend of theirs gotten omnipotent and tried to destroy the world, maybe?
Corvus Niveus Lugus says:
because if he has, I totally saw that coming ;D
Sarah says:
no, no. the details are a little fuzzy, but basically he got hurt pretty bad and he wasn’t supposed to survive. it wasn’t meant to be or something because he’d get in the way of the sisters fulfilling their destiny or something. so he’s alive, only he’s basically the magical equivalent of frozen.
Sarah says:
boggles the mind a little.
Corvus Niveus Lugus says:
that’s the patentated ingenious Charmed logic at work, there, I see.
Sarah says:
Let’s just say it wasn’t one of the highlights of the season.
May 3rd, 2006 at 19:29
Hm, you’re not a very responsive sort of fellow, are you?